Ep 288: The Abduction of Betty and Barney Hill Part 2
Although Betty and Barney spent three years searching for the dirt road where they saw the roadblock and the fiery orb, they did not find the site until Labor Day Weekend in 1965. I was with them.
Description:
In Part Two of The Abduction of Betty and Barney Hill, we compare and contrast story elements of the too-close encounter taken from what the couple remembered about the night of the abduction, Betty’s lucid dreams, and regression hypnotherapy. We also have the pleasure of interviewing researcher and author Kathleen Marden, Betty Hill’s niece, who was present for the contemporary testimony and witness to the physical evidence at the time. Kathleen has dedicated decades to meticulously investigating her aunt and uncle’s case and the UFO phenomenon in general. She has held various positions within the Mutual UFO Network from 1991 to 2023, such as Director of Field Investigator Training and Founder/Director of MUFON’s Experiencer Resource Team. Kathleen was awarded MUFON’s “Researcher of the Year” trophy in 2012. Join us for a fascinating conversation where we separate fact from fiction and the conscious from the subconscious regarding one of history’s most famous “Close Encounters of the Fourth Kind.”
Map of close encounter route and abduction site. Image courtesy of Kathleen Marden. All rights reserved.
Audio from the Hypnosis sessions
Used by permission from Kathleen Marden www.kathleen-marden.com. Not for distribution. All rights reserved.
![Researcher, author, and Betty Hill's niece, Kathleen Marden.](https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/57eaab3659cc68cc4f3275a5/1721600581958-HD28139QBQEJBLWF7WYE/Kathleen%27s+2024+head+shot+9x11+300+dpi+%281%29.jpg)
![Betty and Barney in Montreal, 1967. Image courtesy of Kathleen Marden. All rights reserved.](https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/57eaab3659cc68cc4f3275a5/1721600602527-HZTBNFSVQ4GUTSSNBLNL/%237+B+%26+B+in+Montreal+1967+500+dpi.jpg)
!["Betty and Barney at home with pets." Image courtesy of Kathleen Marden. All rights reserved.](https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/57eaab3659cc68cc4f3275a5/1721600561715-E0D5VYMA5G8FOGHI242F/%2334+Betty+and+Barney+at+home+with+pets.jpg)
!["Betty at abduction road." Image courtesy of Kathleen Marden. All rights reserved.](https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/57eaab3659cc68cc4f3275a5/1721600606122-BGEO0VXTYGP5XGRTUZLO/%2341+Betty+at+abduction+road+500+dpi.jpg)
!["Zipper damage on Betty's dress." Image courtesy of Kathleen Marden. All rights reserved.](https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/57eaab3659cc68cc4f3275a5/1721600600417-U5N3M9BKVANW6FNOTL8C/%23+5+500+dpi+Zipper+damage+on+Betty%27s+dress+%2450..jpg)
!["Betty's dress." Image courtesy of Kathleen Marden. All rights reserved.](https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/57eaab3659cc68cc4f3275a5/1721600613519-8Z3KG6XVGJQ2QPY9K9IO/Betty%27s+dress+%233.jpg)
!["Spots on trunk of Betty's car." Image courtesy of Kathleen Marden. All rights reserved.](https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/57eaab3659cc68cc4f3275a5/1721600622256-6KDZJJB0U86C07UGGMML/%2347+spots+on+trunk+of+Betty%27s+car+500+dpi.png)
!["Betty's watch and earrings." Image courtesy of Kathleen Marden. All rights reserved.](https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/57eaab3659cc68cc4f3275a5/1721600603845-PL3EFKHA6E1HQ71L7410/%2323+Betty%27s+watch+and+earrings+500+dpi.jpg)
Kathleen asked us to make the following corrections and notes to Part 1:
1. Betty's memory of grotesque entities was not in her dreams. Her dream entities had the appearance of cadets with large noses and her hypnotic recall had the appearance of this photo:
2. Betty and Barney were on US Highway 3 during their UFO encounter. They regained full consciousness near Ashland and began talking again near Northfield. Please examine this 1961 map.
Copyright Kathleen Marden. All Rights Reserved.
3. The craft swooped down at approximately midnight about a mile south of Indian Head on Route 3. This is where the craft hovered beside the road, and then it moved across the road to the close encounter field. This is when Barney observed the entities who were "Somehow not human."
4. When they arrived home, Betty checked her watch and realized that it had stopped, so she walked inside her home and checked the time on her clock. It was 5:16 AM and she set her watch to the correct time. She then realized that her watch was broken.
Note: I am extraordinarily disappointed in Dr. Cogswell. He failed to learn the basic facts regarding the case. He was factually incorrect and presented a distorted account of what occurred.
Barney Hill’s sketch of the UFO. Image courtesy of Kathleen Marden. All rights reserved.
Betty HIll’s letter to Donald Keyhoe and NICAP. Image courtesy of Kathleen Marden. All rights reserved.
Project Blue Book report on the Hill’s encounter, page 1. Courtesy of Kathleen Marden. All rights reserved.
Project Blue Book report on the Hill encounter page 2. Courtesy of Kathleen Marden. All rights reserved.
Project Blue Book report on the Hill encounter page 3. Courtesy of Kathleen Marden. All rights reserved.
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Episode 288: The Abduction of Betty and Barney Hill Part 2. Produced by Scott Philbrook & Forrest Burgess. Audio Editing by Sarah Vorhees Wendel of VW Sound. Music and Sound Design by Allen Carrescia. Tess Pfeifle, Producer and Lead Researcher. Ed Voccola, Technical Producer. Research Support from The Astonishing Research Corps, or "A.R.C." for short. Copyright 2024 Astonishing Legends Productions, LLC. All Rights Reserved.